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How to Parent Through Play
Mini Synopsis
In this episode, Dr. Robyn Silverman talks with licensed marriage and family therapist and registered play therapist Dr. Kim Van Dusen about how play can become one of the most powerful tools in a parent’s toolkit. Together they explore the ABCs of behavior, the difference between problem-based and solution-based parenting, fixed versus growth mindset language, practical play strategies for the toughest everyday moments, how to manage meltdowns before and after they happen, picky eating, chores, and what to do when you want to connect with your child but are completely exhausted. Grounded in three evidence-based modalities — play therapy, solution-focused therapy, and positive behavior interventions and supports — this conversation is full of strategies parents can use today.
Introduction:
Play is probably not the first thing that comes to mind when your child is melting down because it’s time to leave the park, refusing to clean up, pushing back at bedtime, or choosing literally anything over getting their shoes on when you’re trying to get out the door for school. But what if play could actually be one of your most powerful parenting tools? What if it could help you build cooperation, encourage better behavior, strengthen communication, reinforce boundaries, and deepen connection with your kids? Today’s guest has spent nearly 25 years proving that it can. And the best part? It doesn’t require loads of extra time. It just requires a shift in how you think about the ordinary moments that happen every single day.
Short Bio:
Dr. Kim Van Dusen, PsyD, LMFT, RPT, is a licensed marriage and family therapist, registered play therapist, professor, public speaker, blogger, podcast host, and mom of two based in Southern California. She is the founder and CEO of The Parentologist, a family and lifestyle brand that brings a therapeutic twist to everyday parenting. With nearly 25 years of clinical experience working with children, families, and parents, Dr. Kim has been a contributor to Parents magazine, the New York Post, Very Well Family, Yahoo!, Genius of Play, and L.A. Parent Magazine, and has appeared on Dr. Phil’s Merit Street Media, FOX 5, CBS 8, and ABC 10. Her book Parenting Through Play: Creative Strategies for Building Better Behavior, Deeper Connection, and Positive Communication was published by W.W. Norton/Countryman Press in May 2026 and draws on three evidence-based modalities — play therapy, solution-focused therapy, and positive behavior interventions and supports — to help parents speak the language children actually understand.
Important Messages:
Play Is a Child’s Primary Language — Dr. Kim Van Dusen
When adults meet someone new, they connect through conversation. When kids meet someone new, they connect through play — sometimes without exchanging a single word. This is why play-based strategies work so powerfully: they speak directly to how children’s brains are wired to communicate, connect, and learn. When parents meet kids in that language, cooperation and connection follow naturally.
The “Yet” Negates the Period — Dr. Robyn Silverman
Adding the word “yet” to a fixed-mindset statement turns a full stop into an ellipsis. “I can’t do this” ends the story. “I can’t do this yet” opens it. That single word carries enormous weight for a child who is stuck, because it tells them: it is coming. You are on your way. This moment is not the whole story.
Look for the Motivation Behind the Behavior — Dr. Kim Van Dusen
Every behavior has a reason underneath it. The ABCs of behavior give parents a framework: A is for Avoidance (the child is trying to escape a task or activity), B is for Boredom (understimulation, especially during unstructured time), and C is for Connection (they are craving closeness with a caregiver but expressing it through acting out). When parents identify the real driver, they can respond to the need rather than react to the behavior.
Play First, Then the Rest Gets Easier — Dr. Robyn Silverman
When a child’s need for connection has been met through play, their cup is full — and a full cup means a child who is more cooperative, more settled, and more willing to do the unpreferred things. Putting play first is not indulgent. It is strategic. It saves time and energy in every interaction that follows.
Shift from Problem-Based to Solution-Based Parenting — Dr. Kim Van Dusen
Solution-focused therapy asks one core question: what is going to fix this? Instead of staying stuck in the loop of “my child always acts out at bath time,” parents can ask what small change — in timing, environment, routine, or language — might shift the pattern. If something is not working, stop doing that and try something new. The solution is almost always simpler than the problem feels.
Use the Magic Wand Miracle Question — Dr. Kim Van Dusen
Ask a child: if a fairy came in the night and changed one thing, what would be different when you woke up? The answers are often startling in their honesty. Kids will name a parent’s yelling, a struggle at school, a feeling of being left out. The miracle question gives parents a window into what is actually going on beneath the surface — and a clear direction for where to focus.
Replace Fixed Mindset Language with Growth Mindset Language — Dr. Kim Van Dusen
The word “yet” negates the period at the end of a fixed statement. “I can’t do it” becomes “I can’t do it yet.” “I failed” becomes “I haven’t passed it yet.” Swapping “but” for “and” does the same: “I love you, but you always get in trouble” erases the love. “I love you, and I know you’re working on this” keeps both truths intact. These small shifts in language build a child’s sense of possibility rather than their sense of failure.
Validate Before You Redirect — Dr. Kim Van Dusen
When a child says “I can’t do it” or “I’m stupid,” the instinct is to immediately correct or reassure. But the most effective first move is to validate what they’re feeling: “I get it. That test was really hard, and it feels awful.” Then empathize briefly. Then, and only then, redirect toward the solution. Skipping the validation step means children feel unheard and the message won’t land.
Regulate Yourself Before You Try to Regulate Your Child — Dr. Kim Van Dusen
When a parent’s cortisol is high, their brain is in fight-or-flight mode — and in that state, creative, playful responses are neurologically inaccessible. Dr. Kim’s “wellness winks” are one-minute self-check-ins twice a day: Have I eaten? Had water? Gone to the bathroom? Do I need a breath of air or a moment of quiet? Taking care of your nervous system first is not a luxury. It is the foundation of being able to parent well in hard moments.
When You’re Exhausted, Let Them Do the Work — Dr. Kim Van Dusen
Playing with a child does not mean being the active participant. The spa game, the doctor game, the fashion show, the dance performance — all of these involve the child doing the work while the parent lies there, sits on the couch, and receives. Connection happens anyway. The child’s cup gets filled. And because play fills that need for closeness, compliance with everything else tends to come more easily afterward.
Use Food and Texture as Play with Picky Eaters — Dr. Kim Van Dusen
Many children’s resistance to food is driven by texture, not taste. Letting them smell it, touch it, lick it, and explore it sensorially before eating it is a legitimate step. Putting food in an ice cube tray, freezing yogurt into a new texture, cutting sandwiches into cookie shapes, or letting a child pick a strange-looking fruit at the store and bring it home are all ways to use play and autonomy to lower resistance and build willingness to try something new.
When in Doubt, Play It Out — Dr. Kim Van Dusen
Dr. Kim’s top tip distills the whole book: when a situation is escalating or stuck, ask yourself how you could make it more playful. Not silly. Not fake. Just lighter. A transition that becomes a race. A chore that becomes a freeze-dance game. A dinner that becomes a drawing session. Play does not have to look a particular way. It just has to shift the emotional temperature of the moment.
Notable Quotables:
“Play is a child’s language. When adults meet someone new, we connect through talking. When kids meet someone new, they connect through play — sometimes without saying a single word.”
— Dr. Kim Van Dusen
“The word ‘yet’ negates the period. ‘I can’t do it’ is a full stop. ‘I can’t do it yet’ is an ellipsis. It’s on its way. It will be here soon. That one word carries so much hope.”
— Dr. Robyn Silverman
“Solution-focused therapy asks: what is going to fix this? If something is not working, stop doing it. Focus on the solution, not the problem itself.”
— Dr. Kim Van Dusen
“The frustration language — ‘I love you, but’ — belongs in a conversation with your spouse or your friend. When it comes out to your child, they may carry it. They may believe your love is conditional. That’s not what you mean, but it is what they hear.”
— Dr. Robyn Silverman
“The magic wand question gives you a window into what is really going on. Kids are pretty honest. They’ll say, I wish you didn’t yell at me so much. Or, I wish I wasn’t so stressed about math. That’s where the real information is.”
— Dr. Kim Van Dusen
“Put play first. Their cup gets filled. Then everything that comes after — the chores, the homework, getting out the door — it all gets a little bit easier.”
— Dr. Robyn Silverman
“Play doesn’t mean sitting on the floor for 30 minutes of active dialogue. It means micro moments of playfulness woven into the everyday — and those moments change everything.”
— Dr. Kim Van Dusen
“Regulate yourself first. If your cortisol is high and you’re in fight-or-flight, you won’t have the brain power to be creative or playful. You have to get there first.”
— Dr. Kim Van Dusen
Resources:
Dr. Kim Van Dusen↓
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Website: TheParentologist.com
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Instagram: @theparentologist
- Podcast: The Parentologist Podcast
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Book: Parenting Through Play: Creative Strategies for Building Better Behavior, Deeper Connection, and Positive Communication
Dr. Robyn Silverman ↓
- Website: DrRobynSilverman.com
- Podcast: How to Talk to Kids about Anything
- Book: How to Talk to Kids about Anything: Tips, Scripts, Stories, and Steps to Make Even the Toughest Conversations Easier
- Instagram: @dr.robynsilverman
Facebook: Dr. Robyn J.A. Silverman
YouTube: Dr. Robyn Silverman - Bluesky: Dr. Robyn Silverman- Parenting
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